Why do other player's armour look so bad in non combat areas? - Guild Wars Forums

Haijiibirdhead · Dec 10, 2006, 05:47 PM // 17:47

I dont know how many people have noticed this but while in a town or outpost your armour will look sharp and fine ,however those of others, when one looks are all blurred and poorly graphically rendered , similar to how yours would look if you set the graphics right down to the lowest , in the options menu. The details are not only lost (This is most tragic on "Prestige armour" imo) but often if you look closely its ...well its a bit of a pixilated mess... :|

Yet if one goes into an explorable area , you'll find that both you and your teammates have nigh perfectly rendered armour , as it should look.

Why is this? Why cant Anet keep the graphical rendition of an outfits texture consistent?

Yet Henchmen have perfectly rendered armour , on just about all parts of the game.

So I think its odd. And I find it sad that the one time most people WILL see your armour , (outpost/town) is when it will look Awful.

I'm looking for a Vabbian Female ranger to see if I look bad......

sykoone · Dec 10, 2006, 05:53 PM // 17:53

It may be due to the high volume of people in a town, the game automaticaly lowers the quality of some graphics.

Saraphim · Dec 10, 2006, 06:04 PM // 18:04

Well... I wouldn't fancy the chances of a low/mid range graphics card if 199 other characters were all being drawn with hires textures in a full district.

The lag would be...bad.

Haijiibirdhead · Dec 10, 2006, 06:34 PM // 18:34

Lol - The lag will be bad anyway If you have a low end Vid Card.

...Believe me I've been there.

Reason · Dec 10, 2006, 06:41 PM // 18:41

go to LA dist 1 the night of the Mad King's first arrival with everyone armor being shown in all its glory and tell me if you can even find your way around through the lag.

The Omniscient · Dec 10, 2006, 06:41 PM // 18:41

Outposts are small in this game so I guess it makes sense.

Free Runner · Dec 10, 2006, 06:45 PM // 18:45

They tone it down so it does not cause massive lag i guess...like said have you seen the lag in big events like Halloween? worse when they are performing emotes......and if you did have a low end videocard you would be screwed anyway.

If you tone down the graphics in options you will see what you look like to other players...although i notice no difference to vabbian female armor.

Carth` · Dec 10, 2006, 07:01 PM // 19:01

I don't mind the armour looking awful in outposts, what I don't like is the blurring of face and hair. It makes some characters look really ugly when they have blurred, pixelated faces and hair. On female characters it makes it look like their mascara has run, and they put their lipstick on while sitting on a bus. For male characters it makes them look wrinkled.

Haijiibirdhead · Dec 10, 2006, 07:14 PM // 19:14

If you tone down the graphics in options you will see what you look like to other players...although i notice no difference to vabbian female armor.

Tell me youre kidding...

Female Vabbian , dont get me wrong , looks one of the (if not the) best armour suits in the game, At high or medium resolution , you start going beneath that , then the detail is totally lost , and all you see , is a random mess for lack of a better word , where the contours and the recesses (shadows) of the armour are replaced by black squares.

This is especially apparent on the lower regions of the suit, the belt being the worst hit. And this is from the second most expensive armour in the game

....

Simle armour like Elementalists (not much armour) or starter basic armour are affected least I've seen , as there are less details to mash up. , Druids Grotto Ranger armour is perhaps affected least.

Now I've seen how I look on low resolution , and therefore how I must look to other players. I look Awful. Its really tragic. Vabbian Armour is considered to be one of the more prestigious armour suits , yet I am almost ashamed to wear it because of this

.

I know it can taxing on the servers , and I'm not asking for perfect armour all round , but why not at least have Ascended and above armour being resolved in medium graphics? Isnt that the POINT of them ? for the looks? and to impress people?

Whats the point of prestige armour if it only looks even relatively good in explorable areas , in a game thats turning out to be going down the single player road anyway?

Former Ruling · Dec 10, 2006, 07:41 PM // 19:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haijiibirdhead

If you tone down the graphics in options you will see what you look like to other players...although i notice no difference to vabbian female armor.

Tell me youre kidding...

Female Vabbian , dont get me wrong , looks one of the (if not the) best armour suits in the game, At high or medium resolution , you start going beneath that , then the detail is totally lost , and all you see , is a random mess for lack of a better word , where the contours and the recesses (shadows) of the armour are replaced by black squares.

This is especially apparent on the lower regions of the suit, the belt being the worst hit. And this is from the second most expensive armour in the game

....

Simle armour like Elementalists (not much armour) or starter basic armour are affected least I've seen , as there are less details to mash up. , Druids Grotto Ranger armour is perhaps affected least.

Now I've seen how I look on low resolution , and therefore how I must look to other players. I look Awful. Its really tragic. Vabbian Armour is considered to be one of the more prestigious armour suits , yet I am almost ashamed to wear it because of this

.

I know it can taxing on the servers , and I'm not asking for perfect armour all round , but why not at least have Ascended and above armour being resolved in medium graphics? Isnt that the POINT of them ? for the looks? and to impress people?

Whats the point of prestige armour if it only looks even relatively good in explorable areas , in a game thats turning out to be going down the single player road anyway?

Problem is 15k armor is almost more common then lower grade armors, and FoW armor is more common now, so just giving them good graphics would still basically MELT most casual player's video cards lol.

cR4zY-n^ · Dec 10, 2006, 08:00 PM // 20:00

I think it happens only to chars that modified their character's size.

When I had big warrior I could see my armor blured, but now on normal scale it is as shiny as outside of city.

Haijiibirdhead · Dec 10, 2006, 08:38 PM // 20:38

You cant change character size/scale once said characters created right?

- but thats not the issue im bringing up ...

To ME my character always looks almost perfectly rendered , its only to others that they look dire I think.

Which to me is a bit of a deception , I may think I look good and will want to show my new armour off to friends/whoever , but all I's suceed in doing is making a total fool out of myself due to how rough I'd look to others.

I'd like to confirm this though - if someone else actually does have female vabbian ranger armour , I'd like to see if its as bad as I think It is....

"and FoW armor is more common now, so just giving them good graphics would still basically MELT most casual player's video cards lol."

It still isnt that common , considering the price its actually at - but Ive seen a few warrior Obsidian Armours around , and they look barely ok from a distance. on close expection they look terrible.

- And If rendering peoples armours to medium in an outpost at least (not necessary a town) will burn up the Video cards , then Either Humanity has NOT come as far as I think we have in terms of personal computer technology , or the average gamer needs to get a better video card ....

I'd Expect equal or better graphical rendition from a Ps2 game even in this aspect.

silent shadows · Dec 10, 2006, 08:42 PM // 20:42

prolly they have thier graphics low, affects thier armor

Haijiibirdhead · Dec 10, 2006, 08:50 PM // 20:50

prolly they have thier graphics low, affects thier armor

Negative. I've actually tested it with a friend by buying the same sunspear vest and comparing it..

Free Runner · Dec 10, 2006, 09:46 PM // 21:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haijiibirdhead

If you tone down the graphics in options you will see what you look like to other players...although i notice no difference to vabbian female armor.

Tell me youre kidding...

Female Vabbian , dont get me wrong , looks one of the (if not the) best armour suits in the game, At high or medium resolution , you start going beneath that , then the detail is totally lost , and all you see , is a random mess for lack of a better word , where the contours and the recesses (shadows) of the armour are replaced by black squares

Nope not kidding at all.I guess its my view only then.I tend to prefer my rangers armor to look how i want it instead of making sure others gaze upon it in awe. I also agree with what Former Ruling says. Making all 15k sets perfectly rendered in outpost would be hell

Free Runner · Dec 10, 2006, 09:46 PM // 21:46

EDIT: Double post

damn connection

Kelsey Cain · Dec 10, 2006, 10:32 PM // 22:32

well you learn something new everyday.

I had noticed that other players armour looked a lot blockier than my own in town, but never thought to look in instanced areas.

So if this is the case, the 15k armours are really the equivelent of 'The kings new clothes' - those wearing them think they look great, while the rest of us are thinking 'what a pixellated mess'

Nickhimself · Dec 11, 2006, 04:33 AM // 04:33

They drain the detail from everyone elses armor in towns, so it doesn't tax graphics cards so much. Less lag, less detail.

Buzzer · Dec 11, 2006, 06:51 AM // 06:51

They should have the option of seeing others' armour on full detail for high-end systems.

Shattered_Glass · Dec 11, 2006, 06:57 AM // 06:57

i doubt many of our graphics cards have the power to render 50-100's of characters in town, my laptop i use has a 6800Go 256mb , and it still lags in this game some time,

its just by not rendering all the armor less stress on ur videocard ,processors etc. also have 1gig+ of memory ram would help if we were to render all of the armors in town

Dec 10, 2006, 05:47 PM // 17:47	#1
Haijiibirdhead Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2006 Guild: None Profession: R/Mo	Why do other player's armour look so bad in non combat areas? I dont know how many people have noticed this but while in a town or outpost your armour will look sharp and fine ,however those of others, when one looks are all blurred and poorly graphically rendered , similar to how yours would look if you set the graphics right down to the lowest , in the options menu. The details are not only lost (This is most tragic on "Prestige armour" imo) but often if you look closely its ...well its a bit of a pixilated mess... :\| Yet if one goes into an explorable area , you'll find that both you and your teammates have nigh perfectly rendered armour , as it should look. Why is this? Why cant Anet keep the graphical rendition of an outfits texture consistent? Yet Henchmen have perfectly rendered armour , on just about all parts of the game. So I think its odd. And I find it sad that the one time most people WILL see your armour , (outpost/town) is when it will look Awful. I'm looking for a Vabbian Female ranger to see if I look bad......

Dec 10, 2006, 08:38 PM // 20:38	#12
Haijiibirdhead Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2006 Guild: None Profession: R/Mo	You cant change character size/scale once said characters created right? - but thats not the issue im bringing up ... To ME my character always looks almost perfectly rendered , its only to others that they look dire I think. Which to me is a bit of a deception , I may think I look good and will want to show my new armour off to friends/whoever , but all I's suceed in doing is making a total fool out of myself due to how rough I'd look to others. I'd like to confirm this though - if someone else actually does have female vabbian ranger armour , I'd like to see if its as bad as I think It is.... "and FoW armor is more common now, so just giving them good graphics would still basically MELT most casual player's video cards lol." It still isnt that common , considering the price its actually at - but Ive seen a few warrior Obsidian Armours around , and they look barely ok from a distance. on close expection they look terrible. - And If rendering peoples armours to medium in an outpost at least (not necessary a town) will burn up the Video cards , then Either Humanity has NOT come as far as I think we have in terms of personal computer technology , or the average gamer needs to get a better video card .... I'd Expect equal or better graphical rendition from a Ps2 game even in this aspect. Last edited by Haijiibirdhead; Dec 10, 2006 at 08:48 PM // 20:48..

Dec 10, 2006, 05:53 PM // 17:53	#2
sykoone Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Mystical Chaos Profession: E/	It may be due to the high volume of people in a town, the game automaticaly lowers the quality of some graphics.

Dec 10, 2006, 06:04 PM // 18:04	#3
Saraphim Jungle Guide Join Date: Mar 2006 Guild: The Hand of Omega [WHO] Profession: E/	Well... I wouldn't fancy the chances of a low/mid range graphics card if 199 other characters were all being drawn with hires textures in a full district. The lag would be...bad.

Dec 10, 2006, 06:34 PM // 18:34	#4
Haijiibirdhead Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2006 Guild: None Profession: R/Mo	Lol - The lag will be bad anyway If you have a low end Vid Card. ...Believe me I've been there.

Dec 10, 2006, 06:41 PM // 18:41	#5
Reason Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: California Profession: E/	go to LA dist 1 the night of the Mad King's first arrival with everyone armor being shown in all its glory and tell me if you can even find your way around through the lag.

Dec 10, 2006, 06:41 PM // 18:41	#6
The Omniscient Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Oct 2006 Profession: Mo/	Outposts are small in this game so I guess it makes sense.

Dec 10, 2006, 06:45 PM // 18:45	#7
Free Runner Forge Runner Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: GW2G Guild: Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]	They tone it down so it does not cause massive lag i guess...like said have you seen the lag in big events like Halloween? worse when they are performing emotes......and if you did have a low end videocard you would be screwed anyway. If you tone down the graphics in options you will see what you look like to other players...although i notice no difference to vabbian female armor.

Dec 10, 2006, 07:01 PM // 19:01	#8
Carth` Desert Nomad Join Date: Apr 2006	I don't mind the armour looking awful in outposts, what I don't like is the blurring of face and hair. It makes some characters look really ugly when they have blurred, pixelated faces and hair. On female characters it makes it look like their mascara has run, and they put their lipstick on while sitting on a bus. For male characters it makes them look wrinkled.

Dec 10, 2006, 07:14 PM // 19:14	#9
Haijiibirdhead Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2006 Guild: None Profession: R/Mo	If you tone down the graphics in options you will see what you look like to other players...although i notice no difference to vabbian female armor. Tell me youre kidding... Female Vabbian , dont get me wrong , looks one of the (if not the) best armour suits in the game, At high or medium resolution , you start going beneath that , then the detail is totally lost , and all you see , is a random mess for lack of a better word , where the contours and the recesses (shadows) of the armour are replaced by black squares. This is especially apparent on the lower regions of the suit, the belt being the worst hit. And this is from the second most expensive armour in the game .... Simle armour like Elementalists (not much armour) or starter basic armour are affected least I've seen , as there are less details to mash up. , Druids Grotto Ranger armour is perhaps affected least. Now I've seen how I look on low resolution , and therefore how I must look to other players. I look Awful. Its really tragic. Vabbian Armour is considered to be one of the more prestigious armour suits , yet I am almost ashamed to wear it because of this . I know it can taxing on the servers , and I'm not asking for perfect armour all round , but why not at least have Ascended and above armour being resolved in medium graphics? Isnt that the POINT of them ? for the looks? and to impress people? Whats the point of prestige armour if it only looks even relatively good in explorable areas , in a game thats turning out to be going down the single player road anyway?

Dec 10, 2006, 08:00 PM // 20:00	#11
cR4zY-n^ Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Zadar - Croatia Guild: We Work As A [Team] Profession: Mo/E	I think it happens only to chars that modified their character's size. When I had big warrior I could see my armor blured, but now on normal scale it is as shiny as outside of city.

Dec 10, 2006, 08:42 PM // 20:42	#13
silent shadows Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Texas Guild: Sigh You All [Fail] Profession: R/	prolly they have thier graphics low, affects thier armor

Dec 10, 2006, 08:50 PM // 20:50	#14
Haijiibirdhead Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Dec 2006 Guild: None Profession: R/Mo	prolly they have thier graphics low, affects thier armor Negative. I've actually tested it with a friend by buying the same sunspear vest and comparing it..

Dec 10, 2006, 09:46 PM // 21:46	#16
Free Runner Forge Runner Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: GW2G Guild: Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]	EDIT: Double post damn connection

Dec 10, 2006, 10:32 PM // 22:32	#17
Kelsey Cain Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2006	well you learn something new everyday. I had noticed that other players armour looked a lot blockier than my own in town, but never thought to look in instanced areas. So if this is the case, the 15k armours are really the equivelent of 'The kings new clothes' - those wearing them think they look great, while the rest of us are thinking 'what a pixellated mess'

Dec 11, 2006, 04:33 AM // 04:33	#18
Nickhimself Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Your face Guild: True Gods Of War [True] Profession: W/Mo	They drain the detail from everyone elses armor in towns, so it doesn't tax graphics cards so much. Less lag, less detail.

Dec 11, 2006, 06:51 AM // 06:51	#19
Buzzer Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Australia	They should have the option of seeing others' armour on full detail for high-end systems.

Dec 11, 2006, 06:57 AM // 06:57	#20
Shattered_Glass Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Michigan Guild: None? Profession: A/	i doubt many of our graphics cards have the power to render 50-100's of characters in town, my laptop i use has a 6800Go 256mb , and it still lags in this game some time, its just by not rendering all the armor less stress on ur videocard ,processors etc. also have 1gig+ of memory ram would help if we were to render all of the armors in town